Hunter Tylo Biography In December of 2003 Hunter had started filming a hosting role on a television show called 'Life and Leisure' and she also filmed an appearance on a cable television show in which she made a slightly controversial comment. These roles started the year off for Hunter along with a return appearance on Bold but let us look at 'Life and Leisure' first. Some photos from her work on 'Life and Leisure' are available here. She poses as a construction worker through to the host of the show in these beautiful photos. The show was what I call a promotional vehicle for companies that wanted to advertise all sorts of goods and services from skin lotion to vacations. There was a potential market of around 20 – 50 million viewers on cable television but of course not that many would have watched it. Amongst segments about your finances to home renovations to travel, health and your family life, one of the segments of the show concerned beauty. The official site for this show described the "Skin Deep" segment as: "From the best sunscreens for sun-kissed skin to protecting yourself from old man winter, we'll explore new methods to protect, preserve and replenish skin." Those "new methods" advertised the latest products from sponsors of course, not that there was anything wrong with that. It was an informative series and people in other countries could watch clips on the official site which is still there as of February 2006 when this was published. Speaking about beauty treatments, in her appearance on a show, called the 'Star Treatment' this time, Hunter's Webmaster released a video clip from her interview on this show and the clip was available on her official website. Most of the clip was just hype and rubbish but there was one little comment from her about "some Joe Blow doing a tribute site" that really annoyed me at first and the controversy began. It started with myself just asking others in her forum what they thought about her "Joe Blow" comment. On HunterNet though I launched a personal attack in addition to this. It contained a few, possibly, uncalled for comments but that was not initially what stirred up the debate (the impromptu "opinion poll" in the forum was). I took offence at the comparison between her website and that of some "Joe Blow" and I was also annoyed by the use of the word "tribute" (because only a fan would offer a "tribute" site, not anyone else). I launched a rare "attack" on her on HunterNet and questioned her comment in her fan club forum as a result, but only after talking to others privately first. At this point I should say that anyone that uses the words "blind adoration" and also "rose-colored glasses" in the same sentence as my name and Hunter's name is kidding themselves (as you will see in the 2004 - part three section). While all this debating was going on the webmaster of her official site was busy censoring all references to the "fight" in the forum there. It got completely out of control and was eventually shut down. On the fan club forum the debate continued. Her comment was innocent enough but to the uninitiated may have seemed arrogant you see and that is one reason why I was annoyed (but perhaps she is arrogant after all, I do not know). In addition, the use of the name "Joe Blow" may indicate that she does not care about a person who spends time running a "tribute" site as she called it. Now, such a site is not for her but for the fans. She told people in the video clip to go to her site for current information yet this site was rarely updated and the fan sites had better access to current information and still do (hence the fact that the Net was "blamed" for the fan club's closure by the end of the year). Hunter explained that the comment was more to do with an incorrect filmography for example on several general celebrity sites (that offer advertising banners to make money). Obviously I acknowledge that the context in which she made the "Joe Blow" comment was in reference to such sites but I still felt annoyed for them and her fans alike. We all know that there is quite a "reality" gap between celebrities and their fans and others offering "tributes" (as if that is what a filmography page is). When I first mentioned Hunter's comment to others I was stunned to learn that I was not the only one who was a little outraged but others did not want to speak up like I am generally willing to do. I used to trawl the Net for information and had rarely seen any of the sites that she referred to so I made some assumptions. These were based on what I thought I had heard when I first heard it because the tone that was used caught me off guard completely. So once I had said my piece there were others that joined in and soon the fan club forum "took a break for maintenance" which is how censorship is sometimes done there. Hunter's Webmaster though described the debate as "detrimental" to future site offerings and to Hunter (in other words to his company's bottom line) and also offered the comment below in the forum of her official site. This just did not cut it with fans that felt alienated by the tone of the comments made by Hunter. Such people vote with their mouse and go elsewhere if they do not like censoring or offensive material on a site or forum and they do not come back, regardless of further offerings there. That is exactly what happened in this case because people have that right. As a result, the forum closed soon after this debate ended. This is what the Webmaster of huntertylo.com said on February 1st, 2004. "My God, you guys. Could you guys be blowing this out of proportion any more? Hunter has said on numerous occasions, that you are taking it out of context and I've seen you few putting words in her mouth. After reading everything I have seen on these boards and TT, I couldn't agree more. It was just a general statement, referencing non-official 'tribute' websites. What is making you select few take it so personal? Hunter loves her fans, and all this 'controversy' is totally unwarranted. I would like to see these boards move on if possible. Additionally, can you imagine what this has done to the possibility of future video and interactive stuff we planned to do for the message boards on her site? This was a senseless case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Please stop being offended. Hunter said nothing to offend you and meant no disrespect. She hasn't posted more to you on the subject, because all you do is further scrutinize what she says, and alienate yourselves more." The moral of the story is basically that the Joe Blows of this world rarely get any respect and the above response probably proved that. He obviously had not heard of "Tall Poppy Syndrome" and its affect on the "little people". Luckily when Hunter's fan club forum was up and running again after a few days of "maintenance", Hunter had responded to my much more positive comments about her (included below) and the issue was over and done with. Whether or not she learned that some comments can seem to be arrogant or not remains to be seen but a year later she sort of did it again. This time it was another negative comment about fans aimed directly at her official forum. We will get to that in the 2005 section though but for now the appendix below will give you the highlights of the 'Star Treatment' debate. Hunter's response to my final post on the matter was, "No prob Lyndon. Huntress." And so a healthy debate came to an end. I certainly learnt more and was glad to see that she has the sort of patience that I normally do most of the time but did not at the beginning of this debate. Unfortunately for me that patience ran out just five months later as you will read in part three of the 2004 section. Yes I did it again when I opened my big, fat mouth but this time I was making the innocent comment without thinking first - you see, two can play that game :-) Appendix to this page These are just some of the comments by forum members and Hunter about the 'Star Treatment' video clip. Obviously most were against the comment as you can see below but there were some who defended Hunter. With the exception of "lyndonr" and "Ms Tylo", all other forum members will be referred to as "anonymous" with a number attached. An archive is on file if individuals require it. My personal commentary is also included amongst these reproduced forum messages. The quote from Hunter that started the debate (her eventual responses are further down the page): Firstly, remember that her official site was rarely updated, unlike fan sites which sometimes knew what was going on before she did. That is an exaggeration of course but not by much given the speed of news transmission around the world on the Net. Secondly, you have to imagine that she used a rude tone in this clip when reading this quote because that is exactly how it sounded together with the facial expressions that went with it. During the interview she was referring to her official site at one point and she said that it is, "for fans, so they know that they are going to get first hand information from me. You know, not like some Joe Blow who decided to do a tribute to me." The first forum message response. lyndonr: Jan 13 2004, 3:30AM What did you think of the current clip on HT's official site forum? She was only in it briefly and said a few lines (that I was a little offended by as you can see on hunter-tylo.com). Did I take her comment the wrong way :-) what do you think? Sometimes I think, why do we all bother but I'm not saying that she can be a snob sometimes or anything? Some of what followed. anonymous1: Jan 13 2004, 10:08 PM You know guys I feel really sorry for all the wonderful "Joe Blows" out there that took the time to make websites for there favorite soap character..Taylor Forrester and her portrayer Hunter Tylo. To those wonderful fans that worked hard and long on websites to honor Hunter Tylo my heart aches for you. And for all you nice posters that have stuck it out waiting to hear from Hunter , you guys and girls are such nice folks., you don't deserve this. I'm just sorry everyone is so hurt. Anonymous2: Jan 13 2004, 11:06 PM I agree with all of you. I think Hunter is looking for a new venue which of course means leaving the fans of her soap behind. I personally don't feel this is Hunter's doing but other PTBs who, perhaps do not feel that boards which started in dedication of Taylor Forrester (although we have all been more than supportive of Hunter's new endeavors) may perhaps be detrimental to her career. As far as the video is concerned, I agree with X, it may have even been in the script and again, it may not have dwelled on her that she may have hurt some of her fans. Hunter is moving on, and as a grown child, she may have felt she has outgrown our fanbase, so maybe it is time we also moved on. I just hope Hunter does not become like so many others and succumb to the pressures of agents, producers etc., losing herself. The real victims are the webmasters (X, Lyndon, and …, X) who have created websites honoring someone who may have been at one time but perhaps, no longer exists as we knew her. lyndonr: Jan 13 2004, 11:13 PM I posted more on hunter-tylo.com today but there's no hard feelings or anything on my part I just thought that it was totally inappropriate regardless of what context it was said in. For the benefit of those that missed it all, here's all the things I've said so far on hunter-tylo.com this week. I know I'm probably blowing things out of proportion but I just took offense at a couple of key words (Joe Blow, tribute and first-hand information, which is largely still to come on her site). If she's going to promote her site on TV this year I just think she should choose her words carefully, that's what I'm really trying to say in all of this. From hunter-tylo.com news page at the time January 13th, 2004: Message from Lyndon (Webmaster): Allow me to cause a little controversy here by taking a very rare pot-shot at Hunter on behalf of other Webmasters. In the clip she describes her site as one where fans can "get first hand information from me", not like Joe Blow who decided to do a tribute to me" she said. Oh yeah Hunter, that's the way to show that you care about your fans, just alienate the Webmasters of your fan sites and the suckers that visit them! If you spent more time on this whizz-bang site of your's then we might get some first hand information so fans don't have to visit Joe Blow's site instead, may I respectfully suggest! Of course she's been busy though so who's offended by the comment? Maybe I took it the wrong way but her site hasn't been updated all that much since it's launch after all so is it any wonder fan sites serve a purpose for those that want information. I know that The Huntress will be annoyed to say the least by this comment but most people know how opinionated I am so they won't be surprised that I spoke out. Joe Blow and his fellow insignificant suckers are the ones who are expected to believe the grand claims and visual cues in hyped up infomercials for example, after all. Nice one Hunter! January 14th, 2004: Message from Lyndon (Webmaster): Further to my comments below from yesterday and in response to X's comment on HT's forum, I agree that the comment may have been taken out of context but it was still totally inappropriate. Sure fan sites can only ever offer second-hand information (sometimes exclusive and not first-hand) but an Internet savvy potential customer of HT's official site will always visit the "Joe Blow tribute" and forums first. These can be quickly filled with accounts of negative experiences by customers. So I think that her comment only showed a distinct lack of experience with the Net on her part otherwise she would have known not to alienate any group of potential customers and that any seemingly arrogant comments, associated with hyping up an e-commerce site, do not give a good first impression to those that don't know her. Fans know that profits from her business efforts are largely for charitable use but people who don't know her and what she's trying to achieve won't know that. So it's not good business or marketing practise to make comments about other sites, just stick to what you're advertising and leave other people's sites out of it. A fan site is just that, for fans. Several of HT's fan sites have been around since before HT even knew the meaning of the word 'Internet' and are well respected sites that have supported the various incarnations of her official sites over recent years. Remember, she didn't like the Net a few years ago but it's amazing how a few dollar signs can change a person's attitude. If one wants to make money from their site, alienating one group or another of potential customers is hardly good business practise. They won't buy from you or watch a Biography Channel show that you appear in. The emails I've received overnight indicate that I'm not the only one who thought the "Joe Blow tribute" comment was inappropriate as you'll see this week elsewhere. So next time Hunter, please think about who you are going to offend before you proceed to embarrass yourself with such comments! anonymous3: Jan 14 2004, 08:59 AM Hunter needs to learn to think before she speaks. I appreciate the good things she has fought for and hope life brings her good things but someone who can be that thoughtless will not have me as a supporter anymore. I bought tons of her book and sent them as Christmas presents. Regardless of the "context" of that comment it still smacks of rudeness. You can take that comment and put it into hundreds of different "contexts" and it is still nasty. She should be counting her lucky stars that some Joe Blows out there think enough of her to create sites as "tributes" to her. She DOES'NT deserve you guys. anonymous4: Jan 14 2004, 09:59 AM I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill, and over blowing what was said, Hunter has been great to her fans on this site and the clip was very brief and I am sure she did not intend to hurt anyone, PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES ! Anonymous5: Jan 14 2004, 11:28 AM Wake up people, are you all that blind? She doesn't care about you people. I figured it out a long, long time ago. She made a comment about Joe Blow sites, people who just want to put up a site, and this is a smart and savvy woman? This coming from a woman who hasn't had much work, gee I wonder why, and besides the fact that she looks like she's had her face done, I thought she looked like her face was so pulled back, and that wasn't make up. No wonder she's not getting great work, and believe you me, if she was getting really good work, it would have happened already. So don't sit there and say oh we all live in glass houses, you just don't want to believe that she thinks she's better than anyone in the business. I know actresses, really famous ones, who are great friends of mine that would never act this way, and believe me, they get better work. Anonymous6 (actual fan site webmaster): Jan 14 2004, 10:26 PM I was alerted to come and see this thread and I saw the video clip of Hunter talking about the non-official sites that are on the net, and I have to tell you my feelings were hurt, no matter how hard I tried to shake it off. As you know my site and the sites of other long time and very loyal fans of Hunter Tylo take both a lot of time and effort, and are done out of our having this great admiration and respect for this actress. We don't have to spend the time doing what we do for her but we do, so when I heard her say what she did about "Joe Blow", it really did sting me. I can't really understand why she would say what she did and I really hope she can come on and explain it because with a comment like that her fan base is being directly affected. Let’s not forget how we fans fought like h*ll by writing and calling to save her role as Taylor and how we blasted the soap mags, Brad Bell etc for the poor treatment of her when she was let go. Or how about how we "little people" or is it "little Joe Blows"- helped the debut of her new perfume by taking time out of our day to call QVC and hype up HER product. We have contributed too much to her career to be dissed as lowly Joe Blow-Nobodies. And any celebrity would be happy to have half the wonderfully devoted fan base she does so why say something to alienate them? It's beyond me and I believe we are all due an apology. Also I don't feel too much is being made of this because Hunter has to know by now that she should watch what she says and how she says it. Fans are here today, and can quickly be gone tomorrow over something that was unnecessarily said. That’s how I feel - yes I’m upset right now and I hope that this can all be made right, so I don't mean to bash Hunter but this hurt. I've been a fan for almost 10 years now. lyndonr: Jan 15 2004, 12:50 AM I should point out, seeing as I started all this, the following points: Talk of true fans and the Webmasters of fan sites being bigger than this is not what I was getting at. I just wanted to see what everyone thought of her comment without fighting with each other. Whether she was talking about us or not is not relevant because at first I was disappointed, insulted and highly annoyed and then I thought of others. This includes X, X and Webmasters of any fan site devoted to anyone for that matter. Far be it for me to think that the universe revolves around any of us, Hunter fans or around me because I'm the only male HT fan site Webmaster and the Joe Blow comment could be seen to be a direct dig at me, she could have been talking about anyone in general I'd agree. Still you just don't say anything like what she said regardless. I just thought that it was inappropriate to be "negative" about other sites when you're advertising your own and that's what I wanted to express and see what others thought. It's sort of like the Croc Hunter and Michael Jackson baby dangling things - everyone has a different opinion. Regardless of the context in which the comment was meant to be taken I reject Hunter’s Webmaster's assertion that we took it out of context and I reject any opinion that we are "bashing" Hunter for the sake of it or otherwise. We are expressing that making any fan of anyone feel insignificant with such a comment is foolish and stupid if you want to make money out of them through an official site. I think the show should be edited to exclude that line in case anyone is offended. What if fans of Angelina or Catherine or others saw that, they'd probably think that it was an unwise comment. Perhaps we need Webmasters of fan sites for other celebs here to explain how stupid the comment could be seen to be and that way we can leave HT out of it and comment on her comment in general, as if someone else had said it. That's what my aim was, to see what people thought of the comment on it's own. One post then suggested something that is probably quite true where this whole debate is concerned given that I started it and you have seen what happened. The post suggested that, “it takes only one person to incline another into thinking passionately about something they really wouldn’t have otherwise got riled up about.” Anonymous7: QUOTE (LyndonR @ Jan 13 2004, 04:30 AM) What did you think of the current clip on HT's official site forum? She was only in it briefly and said a few lines (that I was a little offended by as you can see on hunter-tylo.com). Did I take her comment the wrong way :-) what do you think? END QUOTE Yes, I think you took Hunter's comment the wrong way ! This seems really paranoid - what would make anyone here assume that they are the "Joe Blow" referred to ?? Makes me think of England's National Motto under the royal crest : Honni soit qui mal y pense ! (which pretty much translates from the old Norman French: Shamed be he who thinks ill of it ! ) anonymous8: Jan 15 2004, 08:12 AM I'm not trying to make this any worse, but what I'm trying to understand is - who would start a site for Hunter to pay her tribute other than a real fan....... so why wouldn't they believe it was directed at them as "Joe Blow"! After a few posts by people who thought that the forum owner (one of Hunter’s representatives) would have been annoyed by Hunter’s comment as well (when she really would have found the reaction to it at least, quite amusing) this was my next post. Obviously what was said in the forum was quite different to what was said on HunterNet but the initial forum post was what the reaction to was required for. lyndonr: Jan 15 2004, 10:56 PM OK I think I've got the idea now, perhaps we can move on. I was insulted for everyone at the time so I just wanted to get it off my chest and see what others thought. It appears that almost everyone thought that she could've been more careful. I'd agree that she probably meant no harm and that I may have blown it out of proportion. Now I think it was just a foolish and particularly stupid comment to make because people that don't know her might think she's arrogant if they see that. We know she loves her fans but people that don't know her might've have interpreted the comment differently. That's my conclusion from it all. I think the comment should be edited out though for her sake. If X ran a commercial for his company and in it he stated that his nearest rival offered a below-standard service, how do you think they'd feel? Well this is sort of the same. She shouldn't have made the comparisons between a "Joe Blow" site or "tribute" as she thinks they are, to her own site. There's no need for that, just talk about your own site only I think. If I said that I am Lyndon hear me roar because I offer the greatest HT site that has ever been and ever will be and all other fan sites are c##p, it doesn't matter if I'm talking generally or having a dig at someone specific without naming them, people are bound to be offended. Her comment is sort of like that. At this point Hunter decided that it was time to respond. Obviously all the hype about her busy schedule was not needed, just the first paragraph only. It did however give us all a greater insight into the life of someone who had not been working regularly except for the 'Life and Leisure' episodes previously. The first paragraph in Hunter's response, which was in answer to the specific comment, was entirely expected. Although plenty of people fell for it hook, line and sinker it still did not quite get there in properly answering it. Later she apologized and spoke further about it and that is where she explained it all much more succinctly and appropriately. In this particular forum we all love each other at the end of the day like family, but we fight like cats and dogs sometimes and some people, including The Huntress, do not understand that. There were some problems in previous incarnations of this forum but this debate was Hunter's real introduction to the way in which her fan base operates. So this is what she said: Ms Tylo: Jan 20 2004, 10:19 PM Well, I must say this is very sad that a comment made in jest and a silly/fun piece has been taken out of context. … No comment was ever pointed at "anyone". It was a figure of speech to point up the fact that it is important to me to communicate with my fans and have a site that was fact-filled - not hate-filled. Seems I can't win either way. The site costs me personal $$ out of my own pocket. I hardly have time to read my own personal email these days, but I always make sure to keep something new in the site for fans to surf into and have fun with. On the business front, I have shot Life and Leisure episodes thru Christmas, plus a couple of commercials and did some speaking engagements - and had little time during the holidays with my family -- unfortunate, but my work comes when it comes as a "freelance" actor. I meet with people: producers, CEO's, agents, casting people all through the week as I search for the "right" projects for work. In this business, for every 20 to 25 interviews/prospects, you MIGHT do 1 job. I'm so sorry to have not been able to come in and refute the confusion, but I was only alerted to the matter in an email last week just before going out of town. On a personal note, one that I will not discuss publicly or otherwise, I have been dealing with some other emotionally difficult matters. I have needed every moment I have free to give to my family. I hope you will understand. In the meantime, you all are special -- and I appreciate the kind efforts by you all who spoke to give me the benefit of the doubt. Thank you for that. I want to be myself in whatever I say or do. I will try not to let situations like this deter me from keeping our relationship/fan site information available for all of you, although I must admit my first inclination was to kill the sites completely. I do the best I can to stay connected to you all. Just so you understand, October thru April are the MOST hectic times of the year for me. Think about it: I go thru the following routine that requires days/weeks of planning before each one - Michael's birthday Halloweeen Bella's birthday Thanksgiving Christmas New Years Katya's birthday Chris's birthday Valentines Day Pilot Season Easter Mickey's birthday Man, I'm overwhelmed just looking at it! And that is devoid of all the impromptu meetings and appointments and bookings, plus travel. (Let us not forget homework help, taxi cab Mom and before-bedtime family routine) We also recently moved and it seems I will never get our home organized! OY VEY! I have turned down/not been able to do numerous interview requests due to the heavy schedule. I was even snowed in Portland for 4 extra days when they had their horrendous snow storm a couple of weeks ago. That really threw my schedule into a kink! I hope you will all not take anything personal and know that you are all so special. Why do I feel like Micheal Jackson right now?? God Bless You All, Hunter! HAPPY 2004!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ms Tylo: Jan 20 2004, 10:42 PM As taken from another thread, accurate definition of Joe Blow: [A Joe Blow fan site I interpreted to be a site put up by someone who took facts from all over the web, never participated in any official site of Hunter's and never bothered to get firsthand information.] Yes. Thank you. I have seen wrong birthdates of my children, wrong names of work I've done, characters I've played and schools I attended, and even totally inaccurate information of how Katya is doing or what actually happened to her. LOVE YOU GUYS!! Hunter Now we were finally getting somewhere even though she should have thought more carefully before making the original offensive comment in the first place for editing reasons which she then explained. Although no apology for being careless came, she commented more about editing and used it as an excuse, as some fans later told me they thought it was. In response to a post about the use of the words “tribute” and “fan site” where the point was made that the people operating sites like those that she referred to in the above post were obviously not fans. She said: Ms Tylo: Jan 20 2004, 11:56 PM Hmmmmm - yes, you have a point. However, most of the sites that have been forwarded to me to view by my business team etc. are the faulty ones OR ones that boast things like "Hunter Naked" with my head pasted on sick photos etc. In live interviews, you don't have time to edit what specific words or sentences may mean - and if you did, you would sound redundant and paranoid - not to mention you are subject to being edited anyway, no matter how much you explain what you're trying to say. The key word was not "tributes" (in a literal sense) but "fact-filled" - the fact that the site was constructed by me, with the most current accurate, factual information. Of course with all the garbage on the net, I am grateful for anyone who has enough integrity to post classy, updated information about me, my career or family. It is the one's who set out to slop together sensationalized junk with old resumes or bios or gathered info from "wherever" to garner a few web hits. Sorry for the confusion, Hunter To end the whole saga this was what followed. lyndonr: Jan 21 2004, 12:36 AM Ms Tylo, Thank you for explaining all this. There are money-making celeb sites out there that contain minimal information and incorrect filmography info and so on. Perhaps your site will correct this with a full and correct filmography for example. So we know where you were coming from now. Seeing as I'm largely to blame for this little storm in a tea cup, which is rare for me to start, my apologies for anything I might have said out of annoyance initially (you can always take a shot at me but are a lot classier than that no doubt). I can't speak on behalf of X and X for their sites, but I don't run HunterNet for some sense of importance or whatever, it's just there to entertain fans only with whatever info we can get. If it helps any further then that's nice and all. So there's no hard feelings or anything. I was thinking more of fan site Webmasters in general as well as us. I think we all appreciated being able to debate the issue here and I'd like to thank Connie and other moderators for not deleting the thread. Such debate is how we learn about how others see the world. The comment might seem arrogant to people that don't know you, that's one point of the debate, but we know differently. It's tough being a celeb with all the so-called blind adoration from fans and the jealousy or whatever from your critics. Many of us don't know you personally but from what we do know of you, please remember that us "insignificant Joe Blows" (only jokng, I mean fans) love you and your work because you have similar values and ideals to some of us and we are inspired to uphold those in our own communities. That helps to make the world a better place and that is thanks to people like you who are a role model for many. I've read many of the self-help success books over the years. None have come close to giving me an example of how to go about changing things in one's life and community, like your successes in life are a good example of. It's going to take a lot more than the comment you made in the show for our love and respect for you to change. If I can talk in slang here, the reason is because you got guts lady and we like that! So there you go. Now do not tell me that I can be a hyopcrite sometimes because I figured that one out years ago and this whole saga probably indicated that I may just be such a guy sometimes. However I will always be a fan even if I "use" her as a punching bag sometimes within the fan community, especially when she says something that the Hunter we all think we know would not normally do so. Luckily Hunter's response on Jan 21 2004, 02:08 PM was, "No prob Lyndon. Huntress!" All of this happened in January and early February when Hunter began filming some "ghostly" scenes on Bold before doing something drastic with her hair. In addition to that she went to Bulgaria and I stirred up the hornet's nest a few months later. All that is contained within the second and third parts of this 2004 section of the biography. 2004: Joe Blow Strikes Back - Part Two.